DEEP DIVE: Justin Bieber/Hailey/Selena Timeline, 2014-Present Day
WARNING: Strap yourselves in because this is gonna be a long one.
Part One: Jenners + Selena’s Drama (2014)
Let me note here that for this entire timeline i was making sure i got all events related to these people dated with sources linked. bc i didn’t want to miss anything that was relevant. let me know if i’m missing something source based and relevant! i did this because it was important for me to try keep it as fact n evidence based as possible.
Oh, sidenote, i’m not a journalist lol. Dont expect perfect grammar and capitalization here. Me and you are just besties gossiping, ok? This is just for fun☺️
We’ll start from the beginning, I guess. Im starting in 2014 because thats when the jenners and later hailey come into the picture. So early 2014 is when Kris started really trying to craft the Jenners careers/public image. Getting them involved in hollywood friendships like Madison beer (see my previous post here) and according to LA rumors, Kris was preparing to branch out her celeb management skills and was eyeing selena gomez as a possible new client. Thats just a rumor though. Anyway!
First time Selena is seen with a Jenner sister is here, with Kendall on March 21, 2014. You can kinda tell the hug is awkward/forced and its obvious paps were called.
From this day until April 2014 suddenly we were flooded with pics of the sisters and selena.
Side note: Probably important to mention here that even tho we have no definitive proof Kris wanted to manage Selena, its worth noting that Selena fired current management — her own mom and dad, in April 2014.
for some reason imgur isnt working for me no matter what browser I use so you guys will have to bare with me here, i know this would be better in a linked album but heres some pics and date stamps:
april 4 2014 — kendall kylie and selena @ 1 Oak together ; this was for Christian Combs (P Diddys son) 16th birthday party
april 5 2014 — kylie and selena both post this to IG ; selenas caption: “kylie+roses.” kylies caption: “selena+roses”. Lol
Coachella 2014 Begins ; this is April 11th — Kylie captioned this something like #girlstrip , a group of them were preparing for coachella weekend and stopped at a 5 Guys for food. Lol
More pics from the weekend:
Coachella 2014 — day 2 Note the shirt Selenas wearing in this one — this is a different day than the rest of the coachella pics
Coachella 2014 — day 2 — theres VERY few pics i can find of day 2. Selena is the one to the left of kylie. Again, note the outfit
And Heres an article that references the fact that this friendship came out of no where, “Overnight besties?” etc you get the picture
Alrightttttt now lets dig in to what happened.
Here is what Justin wore to preform at Coachella that weekend. Important to mention here that they were not together at this time, they broke up near the end of 2013.
Here is a fan spotted pic of what looks to be Justin and Selena on Day 2. Again, reaallllly hard to find pics of Selena at all on this day but the outfit matches the other pics from above.
Here is a pic of what looks like Justin and Selena spotted at an after party that night. Heres another. They all say she’s wearing the red/orange bandana he had tied on his wrist. Hard to argue with that.
Now, apparently, after that night, Selena and Justin were on again and hanging out all during the week after Coachella. One of these nights, Selena went through his phone and found pics and sexual/flirty texts from Kylie on there, all sent to him during Coachella weekend. Obviously this is hard to prove but heres an article about it, heres another ….. and heres another. anddddd Heres another. These all have more info than I feel like posting here so read through if you want.
So after this, on April 22 2014, she deleted all pics with the Jenners from her IG and unfollowed them. She also unfollowed Bieber at this time.
Also April 22, she posted this on IG. Basically a cryptic post about insecurities and working on loving herself and such.
April 25 2014 Selena tells TMZ that the unfollows were because kylie and kendall were toxic and bad influences on her.
Also on the 25th, Khloe in typical fashion runs to twitter to threaten Selena lol
April 27 2014, Selena is seen flirting with Orlando Bloom
April 28 2014 Kris decides to fight back, running to TMZ and saying that Selena is the one with the problem, not them. The Jenner “source” also purposely brings up Selenas rehab stint LOL a mess. An image of Selena smoking something, sitting next to kylie, mysteriously appears on the internet at this time as well.
Also on April 28, Justin and Kendall get dinner together with Hailey. Note that Hailey is very not close to Bieber at this point in time. Probably Bieber trying to make Selena jealous after the Orlando Bloom stuff came out but who knows. I will say that Bieber did get in a fist fight with Orlando a few months later tho LOL
Next update is the first week of May.
May 4th Justin posted a pic with Kylie at Floyd Mayweathers boxing event in Vegas. The other girl is Yovanna Ventura who Bieber also had a fling with for a period of time.
May 7 2014 Selena and Kendall went to a dinner party they both had to attend. Rumors that they were friends again started swirling, however, from the article: “Selena and Kendall said hi briefly but then sat on opposite sides of the table.”
Anyway, I might be missing some things here so apologize if I am but the next time I have things saved for this saga are in late summer into fall of 2014. Things get weeeiiiirdd
Also August 2014, Justin posts this pic of Kendall about to kiss his neck.
Sept 12 2014 Justin says Selena and him are dating again in his deposition
Sept 30 2014 Justin and Selena are leaving a tropical vacation together, seen at the airport clearly fighting, selena kind of storms out of the van, throws her bag on the ground and looks back at the car definitely angry about something. Justin comes out like 2 minutes later, completely walks past her without acknowledgement. They were headed straight to Paris together for fashion week.
Later that night, also on Sept 30 2014, Kendall and Justin share champagne together in Paris, apparently he picked her up for a private dinner.
Oct 1 2014: After attending the Louis Vuitton show, Selena dips out and heads straight home to LA. Shes seen wearing the same shirt she wore to the show at the airport making people think it was a spur-of-the-moment decision. It seems clear that Bieber did the private dinner thing out of spite since they just broke up earlier that day, and Selena left as soon as she could to get away from it all
This is just kind of funny,by coincidence Selena and Kris ran into each other on the flight home and Kris asked for a pic. Selena gets home and tweets this afterwards, saying the flight was random, long and that shes happy to be home. LOL
Fastfoward to later that evening lmao, some sources say this happened Oct 2 but doesnt really matter — so she tweeted, “We have to learn the hard way sometimes.” she deleted this. Then she tweets this saying “Sometimes we think we aren’t good enough. But then I realize when I think I’m alone I have God. “ She unfollows Bieber at this time as well.
October 4th 2014 Biebers mom tweets saying, “I know you love him. I know you need love. But… #DontBeAHomeWrecker”. Some people say this was aimed towards Kendall, some say it was towards Selena.. who knows.
October 5th 2014 Bieber posts a throwback of him and selena together from their vacation the week before. He deletes this within 24 hours. A MESSSS\
YALL. I WISH I COULD SAY WERE DONE BUT WERE NOT UGHHHH Thank you if youve stayed with me this far because this post has required a ton of backlogging old files and digging for sources. Alright We’re almost done tho I promise.
By the end of Oct, Selena admits she thinks she overreacted about the dinner w/ Kendall.
November 4th Selena and Cara sing Happy Birthday to Kendall.
PART TWO: Introducing Hailey B
Okayyyy so in a minute, we are going to pick up where we left off. If you didnt read the last post you should probably read that first, you can find it here.
I want to touch on a few things about Haileys history just so you can get a better image of the story here if youre not already aware.
- Hailey was a big fan of Bieber since the beginning. Now i REALLY wanted to get a solid date stamp for this pic but google is flooded with other media citing this pic as “aww cute she used to be a fan” that its been almost impossible to find what month or year it was taken. So I’m like hmm.
- I put on my FBI hat Obama style and find the magazine cover on ebay, which tells us that this event had to of taken place in June or July 2011.
- Let me go back a bit further — Her dad Stephen Baldwin took her backstage at the Today show in October 2009 to meet him, thers a video of this encounter somewhere and its pretty awkward, she basically tells him shes a big fan and enjoys his music and he kind of treats it like any other fan encounter.
- February 2011 her dad attends the Bieber Never Say Never movie premiere and of course brings Hailey — he pulls some strings and is able to get them to do another meet and greet
- Then here are some 2011–2013 tweets hailey made in support of selena & justin. Heres a few more.
Ok, backstory over. So we left off in my last post around November 2014.
So In November and October, Kendall had been bringing Hailey around Justin in group outings as Kendall and Hailey grew closer. The first time Justin & Hailey hung out *without* a mutual friend was November 7 2014, where they left a birthday party together alone.
As I mentioned in the last thread, on November 10, 2014 she went to Hillsong church with him and Kendall.
On Nov 22 2014, Haileys 18th birthday, Justin joins the celebration w the Jenners, as you can see in the article even the author was surprised he was there
* December 15 2014 Justin posts this pic with hailey, captioned “People are crazy. I’m super single and this is my good friend u would know otherwise”
* December 17 2014 Justin posts this pic with Kendall and Hailey, captioned “@/kendalljenner why the need for two guns fool and @/haileybaldwin good work today we were killin everyone #nerfwars”
* Dec 22 she posts a pic with a friend kissing her cheek, he comments [“Get off her little guy”](https://ibb.co/DWjFqdd), she deletes the pic after this
* Dec 27 they go out to dinner and a movie and then are seen leaving biebers residence in the morning. Hailey then tweets this: https://twitter.com/haileybaldwin/status/548965525897097217 later that afternoon — it looks like the tweet was deleted but it said “Glad I got such a good night sleep last night, at MY own home, alone.” Which.. pap pics say otherwise haha but ok miss girl
* Dec 29 Justin posts a random blonde model on his IG, something he was known to do often back then in order to get the models attention. This is how ig model wolfiecindy actually rose to fame
* Dec 31 he spends NYE with Hailey, nothing romantic (at least publicly) yet. Kendall & Gigi take Selena to Dubai for new years, hoping the distance from Selena would make Justin and Hailey closer — Kendall is trying to set them up at this point
January 2015 theyre hanging out pretty often, not going to post every single instance from here on out just gonna source the interesting tidbits…
Now honestly theres a lot to cover in 2015 so ill try to be brief because we have a long road ahead of us. January there are several more paparazzi sightings and date pics you can google if youd like, nothing interesting about em.
February 12 2015, few days before Valentines day she goes on record denying that theyre dating again
March 1 2015: Hailey posts pic of t
hem both seemingly shirtless in bed, its the morning of justins 21st birthday. Caption was just “21.”
Later that night shes seen at his birthday party. Note the girl in the grey leggings and long black hair on the right. Thats Yovanna, the girl who was with him and Kylie at the Vegas fight in May of 2014, cited in part 1. People say that Yovanna and Justin were flirting in front of Haileys face all night and she couldnt watch it anymore so she left. Yovanna posts this pic on instagram later that night, captioned “Happy Birthday!!”
March 20 2015: Justin takes model Ashley Moore to a basketball game, theyre seen cuddling
March 31 2015: Hailey likes a tweet insulting Selena
Hailey isnt seen with Justin again (I dont think) until April 9 2015 — he posts them trying to hula hoop together at a target on IG, people say kendall was filming and has been trying to get them back together
Both are taken down super quick but when people have your notifs turned on they take screenshots lol
April 12 2015: Coachella again!!!! Lets talk about it. Kendall is trying to set up Justin and Hailey. Heres a pic of hailey and him and kendall at the fest. Apparently during the weekend, Justin ends up taking home upcoming model Josie Canseco(blonde on the left) which results in hailey crying to kendall and kendall going off on justin, angry crying and calling him a douchebag. I dont have proof it was Josie but everything else including him going home with another girl is in the article I just linked. Rumors about Kendall and Justin hooking up this weekend are going around but I havent found any proof of it. Also, Josie comes up again later so remember that name.
April 23 2015, Justin, Kendall and Hailey are seen taking Justins little sister to a restaurant
May 27 2015: Selena and Justin caught hanging out on a church friends snap story
May 28 2015: Justin and Hailey go on a date
June 15 2015: Hailey and Justin posting it up on IG again acting very couple-y
June 17 Hailey tweets shes single and for people to stop assuming stuff. She deletes this soon after
June 29-July 3rd: Hailey and Justin go on a Hillsong Church retreat in Australia together.
July 23: Selenas birthday, a few sources say he FTed her and sang happy birthday but not 100% sure if this happened
I barely have anything of Hailey or Selena and Justin in August but things start getting weird AF around here.
Aug 25 2015: Selena does an interview with a UK mag where she talks removing her purity ring when her and justin dated, says she did fall in love with him back then
Aug 30 Justin breaks down in tears onstage at the VMAs after preforming two songs he has said in interviews past were about Selena and his relationship
Sept 9th Justin and Hailey leave a club together
September 15 2015: Selena does an interview with Elle and says she will always love him, says she doesnt know if theyd ever get back together
Sept 17: Hailey tells Page Six that justin is a good person and that “Justin and Jesus” are what keeps her grounded… ahaha
Sept 28 Justin does an interview with Complex about Selena. Says they moved in together at age 18, talks about “being so in love with each other that nothing else mattered”, discusses them both losing their minds and having bad fights because they cared abt each other so much etc
Oct 1–5th: Pics of Justin on a private vacation with model Jayde Pierce, where hes photographed naked, come out. Lmaoo. Side note here he genuinely just does not give a fuck abt these womens feelings its truly baffling i cannot LOL
Oct 6th: Justin does a radio interview with a NZ host, when asked what the best part of his teenage years were, his answer is his relationship with Selena
October 7: Justin and Hailey go on a lunch date
Oct 10: Justin and Kourtney Kardashian go on a one-on-one dinner date to The Nice Guy, an upscale hollywood restaurant that is loved by celebrities because of its “no photos/cellphones allowed” policy, allowing for discrete dinners and parties. They also went to a haunted theme park together afterwards.
Oct 12: Selena does an interview saying shes in a healthy spot with her and justin, not angry anymore, says she wants the best for him, they see each other around sometimes, etc
Oct 18: OVO Sound Radio releases a previously unreleased duet Selena and Justin recorded together
Oct 26: Justin and Hailey stay out all night in Europe after EMAs
OKAY YALL THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!! NOVEMBER 2015 IS JUST BATSHIT CRAZY FOR ALL OF THESE KIDS LMAO
November 3 2015: Justin does an interview saying he will always love Selena, and that he doesnt know if he’ll ever be over her
Nov 9 Justin talks about Selena again as well as his new album on Ellen, tells Ellen “Maybe” when asked if they could get back together
Nov 10 Selena preforms at the VS show, and Justin takes Josie(from Coachella) out to 1Oak, they leave in the same SUV together.
Nov 22: Happy 19th birthday Hailey! Its her birthday and the AMAs are tonight. After the Awards show, Justin heads to his afterparty and invites Selena,who’s seen smiling in her car as she heads over. Meanwhile, Hailey seems to be waiting for someone that left her? Looks like she kind of got stranded here outside the AMAs. Then.. these car pics are released, Hailey was clearly really upset about something. Maybe Justin and Selena reuniting on her birthday. Maybe!
November 23 Selena and Justin go on anot
her date .
Early December 2015: First week of Dec Justin starts posting throwbacks to 2013 when him and Selena were dating
OKAYYYYY thats all i have time for today. Part 3 will be up soon.
PART 3: How Justin went from Selena to Hailey to Kourtney to Hailey to Sofia to Hailey to Kourtney to…?
At this point if you’ve been following along, you know a few things by now:
- Justin didn’t really care about what he was doing to these women he kind of just did what he wanted this entire time
- Kendall pushed Hailey and Justin together over & over again for two reasons, first was to sabotage Selena’s relationship with Justin after what Selena did to her and Kylie in 2014, and second was to try to make her bestie Hailey happy
- I have had way too much time on my hands this week due to having it off work and because my actual job is data collection and content creation in marketing, making these brings me a lot of joy and I’m so happy y’all have enjoyed them too! ❤
So. We left off in December 2015, just about a week from the Hailey’s birthday/AMAs afterparty incident where Justin left Hailey and partied with Selena. allegedly Kourtney was at his party as well. Kendall sent Hailey “Fuck Him” cupcakes the day afterwards, on Nov 23 2015. Justin and Selena are seen on dates twice in one week, Nov 21 and Nov 23, with one of these being a (hate to say this but) really cute intimate date where Justin sang Sorry & My Girl to Selena on a hotel bar piano.
Dec 1 2015: Well, Justin being the shameless fuckboy we know him to be, posts this, about a week after the Hailey AMAs incident & his dates with Selena. Its a pic of him and Selena on a date from Sept 2014, captioned “Just a throwback calm down”. Lmao
Dec 6th: Biebers throwback apparently did not inspire Selena to reach out to him, so he decides to post this. Another throwback of Jelena, captioned “Crazy throwback”. 🤣 And she must have still been ignoring him, because somehow he gets worse HAHA
Dec 7th: Justin goes on IG and posts this picture of who we all now know is @/wolfiecindy on instagram, but this was before she blew up. He captions it “Omg who is this!!”
Dec 9, Selena likes this photo on Instagram shading him
Dec 11: Justin and Kourtney go on another one-on-one Friday night date to The Nice Guy. They go to the ultra exclusive Blind Dragon karaoke club together after and met a group of friends. TMZ reports that Kourtney went to the hotel Bieber was staying at afterwards, and is seen leaving the hotel alone at 4AM-ish. (Note: Headline is misleading, read the article, Kylie was not at the hotel, she was seen alone elsewhere, shopping at Saks. Lol.)
Dec 13: This US weekly article comes out saying Kourtney and Justin have been hooking up ‘on the low’ for a while now. Also Dec 13, Justin posts this on IG with the caption “Lord knows”, people take this as a dig to Scott Disick. Never got 100% confirmation the girl is Kourtney but people assume it probably is
Dec 17: Selena pulls a Justin and posts a photo of a mystery man on IG with no caption. Remember this, it comes back later.
Also Dec 17: More notable outlets report on Bieber and Kourtney being a casual ‘thing’
→Sidenote: March 28 2015 (during the time Hailey wasnt talking to him due to him hooking up with Yovanna on his birthday earlier that month) Kourtney posted this photo of Justin and Mason together. Another sidenote: Corey Gamble is meeting with Justin often around this time, he is set to be Justin’s tour manager for the Purpose album tour, which is planned to run from March 2016-Sept 2017.
2016: Hailey ->Selena -> IG models -> Kourtney -> IG models -> Hailey?
Jan 2: Justin posts this pic of Hailey on his IG
Jan 3: This is the photo that…. well, it didnt break the internet but it did cause a loooot of rukus. Justin posts this pic of him kissing hailey with no caption. Shes tagged so theres no confusion on who it is. This is the first time they’ve publicly shown any type of actual PDA/relationship confirmation. He also posts this photo of them
Jan 4: Selena does an interview with Rolling Stone. She gets asked about the November video of him serenading her. She responds, “What I would love to be printed, is that I am so beyond done talking about that, and him.” Oof.
Jan 5: Justin does an interview with The Bert Show where he gets shown the IG pic that Selena posted of the mystery man, to which he says: “”What is she trying to do to my heart right now? I’m just kidding. She loves me. I love her, too, always. Who’s this guy? He’s a joke! This guy’s a chump. Nah, I guess he’s pretty handsome actually–I can’t even lie.”
LMAOOO. HATE him!!!!! He also discusses the Kourtney rumors, he says “I’m being used, man. What can I say?” then laughs and goes “Nah, we’ll leave it at that. For real though shes great and Ive known the family for years.” Note: Apparently this interview was recorded December 17, but was not published until Jan 5th.
Jan 13: Sources go to media and report that Hailey “gave Justin an ultimatum” and demanded he “stop stringing her along”.
Feb 3 2016: Selena tells W Magazine, when asked about Justin, that she is “honestly so done. I care about his health and wellbeing, but I cant do it anymore.”
Feb 8: Superbowl festivities together, sources here say theyre dating
Feb 10: Hailey tells Entertainment Tonight that she loves him. (commenter from the last post who said they heard Hailey told JB she loved him on NYE — U were probs right!)
February 11: Hailey tells E! that her and Justin “are not an exclusive couple.” Then adds, “He’s about to go on tour. Relationships at this age are already complicated. Our relationship is between me and him.”
February 12: Justin spent 2 days with a GQ journalist for an article. Some quotes/notable sections include:
- Him saying the song “Sorry” wasnt an apology to the public for his bad boy behavior, it was an apology to a girl. He is then walking about, doing what sounds like hours worth of random activities with the journalist.
- Shows this tattoo to the journalist and says, “This is my ex-girlfriend…So I kinda tried to cover her face up with some shading, but people still know.”
- At one point late in the day: “Is she in my room?” Bieber asks his bodyguard. They head to his room. Per the article: “ When we enter, Hailey is wearing a black crop top and tight black pants, sitting on a pristinely made bed. She is doing nothing — no TV, no book, no phone, no computer, no music, no oil paints, nothing.” They spend about 30 min in the room, he plays some of a new song to them on his guitar.
- From the article: “Bieber and I head for the hotel courtyard, leaving Hailey alone in the suite.” The interviewer asks if theyre dating, Bieber shakes his head no. “Is she just a friend you kiss sometimes?” he asks. Bieber replies, “Uh-huh. I guess so.” LOL. Journalist notes here that days later, before the article was published, Justins team reached out and asked him to add this to Justins description of Hailey: “she’s someone I really love. We spend a lot of time together.”
- Bieber ends the relationship talk by saying he doesnt want to be tied down, especially since hes about to go on a world tour where there will be “women around”.
Feb 28 2016: Justin has an LA birthday party at a millionaires mansion, Kardashians & Hailey are in attendance
March 1 2016: Justin and friends, including Hailey, Kourtney, Kendall and others, party at a ski resort for his 22nd birthday
March 6 2016: Hailey again says they are NOT dating.
March 9: His Purpose Tour officially begins… AND SO DOES THE MESS!!!!
Note that there is going to be more gaps in timeframes here because his tour was nearly back-to-back shows 3 weeks of every month
March 19: Justin posts a pic of him & selena kissing from like 2011 or something, captions it “Feels”. Y’ALL. LMAO.
March 19: Selena comments on the picture, says “Perfect.” LMAOOOO Bruh
March 25: Hailey posts weird IG quote, limits comments on it
March 28: Justin had the Staples Center rented out for a private date with Selena to screen the movie Titanic. He cancels it last minute due to a suspected argument between them. Staples Center employee is later revealed as the leak for this story
April 4: Justin posted this cover of Kendall, calls her beautiful. I think he throws Kendall into the mix whenever he wants to make another girl jealous, lol. Dont think theres anything there.
April 11: Hailey tells Marie Clare that “it’s hard to date someone in the industry. You have to block out the extra noise.” when asked about Justin.(So yall ARE dating?? lmao)
Apparently, around this time, rumors in hollywood said Selena was secretly starting to date. Charlie Puth, which he denied at the time but admitted to later, saying she was clearly in love with ‘someone else’ while they dated
May 6: Hailey brings parents to Justins concert
May 7: Selena and Orlando bloom hang out again!
May 9: Selena grabs a “MARRY JUSTIN PLEASE” sign at her concert and crumples it up
May 18: Hailey quote RTs someone shes friends with posing with a cardboard cut out of Bieber, hailey captioned it “mood”
May 20: Hailey says theres no feud or bad blood between her and Selena.
May 25: Justin takes model Nicola Peltz on a date to Mastros Steakhouse.
May 30: Justin takes Nicola on a date to mini-golf
June 1 2016: Rumors that Drake and Hailey are seeing each other after being spotted out. Hailey says theyre just great friends
Jun 6: Sigh… Justin refollows Selena on instagram
June 14: Nicola is in Toronto with Justin
June 22: Reports that Nicola has been staying overnight w/ Bieber regularly
July 3: Justin brings Kourtney Kardashian to his booth at a club in Miami and they party together all night
July 4: Justin and Ashley Benson are seen together on a yacht, his friend Ryan and two other mystery girls are there. He is seen all over the place in just his white Calvin boxer briefs lmaoo
July 5: Justin seen on a yacht with model Alexandra Rodriguez
(note: whenever there are 2+ week gaps in the timeline its because he has back-to-back tour dates during these time periods)
July 20–21: Justin rents a movie theater for him and Chantel Jeffries, shes seen leaving his hotel the next day in same outfit as night before. This guy is UNREALLL LOL
Justin has all of August(minus 2 Asia & Europe tour dates) off from his tour. So you guessed it: Mess. Introducing Sofia Richie! But first, more IG models.
August 1 2016: Off to a hot start for the month, he posts this video of a bunch of models in a pool. No caption needed i guess?
Aug 5: Justin and Sofia holding hands on the beach, first time theyre seen together
Aug 10: Another beach date for them
August 14: Justin posts a bunchhhh of pics of him and Sofia on IG, notably this one, with the caption: “I’m gonna make my Instagram private if you guys don’t stop the hate this is getting out of hand, if you guys are really fans you wouldn’t be so mean to people that I like”. Comments disabled for all of these
Aug 14: Selena comments on the above pic LMAO girl!!!!!! She basically says if you cant handle the hate then stop posting ur gf. Justin replies saying selena “used him for attention, Sad! All love.” She replies saying he “cheated multiple times. Sad! All love.” Im summarizing. Full comments from each can be seen here.
August 15 — Bieber deletes his Instagram. NOTE: He doesnt reactivate it until February of 2017.
Aug 15: Hailey posts and deletes a long quote about misplacing blame on other people and not manipulating situations to make yourself look better… no idea who she was throwing shade at but whatever. Boring
Aug 20: Justin parties with one of the Hawaii models in London, they are photo’d leaving in a car together
Aug 26-Aug 30: Justin and Sofia go on a trip to Mexico together for her 18th birthday
Aug 30: Selena announces she is cancelling the remainder of her tour(set to go until Dec) and needs time off from the entertainment industry for her mental health (2nd time in rehab — first time was in 2014 for her Lupus diagnosis. This one is just for mental health. I’ll mention here that suspected drug/alcohol abuse is rumored to be involved but we have not seen confirmations of this being true at this point in time)
Sept 9: Sofia publicly confirms they are dating and gushes about how special he is
Sept 19: Sofia and Justin break up
Sept 20 2016: Hailey and Justin go on romantic date together in Paris. Y’all. I HATE IT HERE
October is uneventful because Corey Gamble(remember: tour manager) set him up for an absolutely grueling month of shows. Seriously. I obviously dont like this kid but that schedule looks brutal
Oct 23: Justin tries to have an intimate talk with the crowd and they kept screaming over him and when he got upset that he couldnt talk over the screams, they started booing him. When he sarcastically said he’d just stop talking they cheered. He storms off stage after this. The article has videos and a lot more context and its actually kinda sad. He apologizes to fans in a series of deleted tweets saying that hes sorry and he isnt a robot.
November is pretty silent,, again probably because of the packed tour dates. Hailey goes on a date with Bella Hadids brother, or something. Selenas rehab stint is from August 30-Nov 30 so nothing there. Some rumors Bieber reached out to her but who knows.
Nov 23: Justin punches a fan in Barcelona that tried to reach inside his car. Media crucifies him for this one lol, brutal. No dates or late nights out these last two months, im guessing tour exhaustion is setting in. Luckily hes done for a bit after November wraps up!
Note: December & January have NO tour dates.
Dec 1: Selenas out of rehab.
Dec 3: Hailey say she vows to keep love life private in the future
Dec 5: Justin says hes single and not really looking
Dec 12: Justin goes on a hike with Madison Beer. There are dating rumors but hes known her since she was 15 so I dont think there was anything romantic there. Hopefully.Lol
Dec 18: Andddd shes back!! Lets all hold the applause for Hailey Baldwin here — she managed to hold out on seeing Justin for EIGHTEEN WHOLE DAYS since his return from his world tour. Theyre seen together at a hollywood club.
Dec 27–31: He spends NYE in Barbados with his dad and little sis. No girls this time.
Jan 11 2017: Selena and Abel (The Weeknd) are seen kissing on a date!
Jan 16, 2017: Kourtney and Bieber reunite for a night of clubbing together
Jan 18: Kourtney “calls off” fling with Justin,lol. I dont think theyve ever had a romantic relationship honestly.. he just uses kendall and kourtney to make girls jealous i think. Hes also close friends with them and they know its good publicity for them too.
*Deep Sigh* I will have to take a pause here… I thought I’d be able to cover it all in one final post but obviously i cant. Although I AM ALMOST NEAR THE END HERE. Fall and Winter of 2017 as well as the first 3 months of 2018, Jelena back in full force. Mid-2018 is the Hailey proposal. Ill cover some post-marriage tea as well. 2017&2018 are hella messy.
Stay tuned… I should have that up by Sunday sometime
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Part FOUR: The Finale
Im publishing my deep dive compilation on Medium today, so hopefully if Buzzfeed or anyone steals my work now I’ll be able to point to that page as proof I compiled the timeline first. ANYWAY!!!!!
Where did we leave off?
January 2017 right? Alright. Stay with me for this y’all, I know we’ve been through a lot together at this point but when I tell you 2017 ends up being one of the messiest years yet… I’m not kidding. It starts off kinda boring — but stay with me here. If you chose to skip to wear it gets good, Scroll down to Oct. 2017. Alright. Lets get into it.
Jan 16, 2017: Kourtney and Bieber reunite for a night of clubbing together
Jan 16, 2017: Justin tells TMZ he thinks Selena & Abels relationship is fake/for PR
Jan 17: Bella unfollows Selena and shades Abel/Selena in an IG post
Jan 18: Kourtney “calls off” fling with Justin, lol.
Jan 21: Justin is asked by TMZ if he still listens to The Weeknds music. He replies “Hell no, that shit is wack”. Lol
Jan 31: Hailey says shes team Bella by posting a pic of bella with the caption “Wait sorry, WHO could possibly be cuter than Bella Hadid…. literally nobody.”
Feb 14: Abel and Selena rent a yacht and get close on Valentines Day
Feb 16: Selena drops a new song about dating an alcoholic, drinking and being high together… probably about Justin
Feb 17: Justin assaults a fan who tried to take a video of him at a pre-grammies party
Feb 22: Kourtney and Justin spotted at church together
Feb 25: Looks like Selena is traveling with Abel during his tour, shes seen at many Europe concerts of his
Feb 27: Selena and Abel take a trip to Paris together
Feb 28: More cute pics of Selena and Abel in Paris
March 1 2017: Justins 23 birthday — he posts this on instagram. if it doesnt load for you/you dont have an IG, heres the screenshot 🙂 Cant find anything online about a party this year, which is pretty out of character for him. Weird
March 2: Rumors about Kourtney being pregnant with Justins baby LOL. No idea on this. People say Reign might be Justins, but Reign was born in Dec 2014, and most if not all the “date night” outings of justin and kourtney were after that. No idea though.
March 7: Justin comments on Sofia Richies IG, “Ur so pretty” … sigh
March 13: Justin is back on tour, in Australia on a yacht with a bunch of models. NDAs and no cell phone rules are enforced. From this point onwards its safe to assume any random IG models or girls hes seen with probably had to sign an NDA
March 30: Justin is in Brazil, brings home a pretty drunk looking Brazilian model
If you were wondering, Hailey hasnt done anything of note that I can find in March 2017.
April 14–16 2017: Coachella!!!! Kendall and Hailey are hanging out, Kendall refuses to talk about massive failure that was her recent Pepsi ad. Selena and Abel are out and about, seen all over the fest together. Side note & not relevant but her outfit is adorable here. More PDA pics from this weekend. Day two they’re seen together as well. Justin is in South America on his tour.
April 17: Abel releases song that seems to have some subtle Bella and Bieber disses, notably “I think your girl fell in love with me”
April 23: Hailey seen with Brooklyn Beckham post-Coachella.
April 24: Hailey and Cameron on a date
April 28: Kendall, Hailey and Bella are under fire for advertising the notorious failure of the Fyre Festival
May 1 2017: Met Gala!!!! Selena and Abel attend together, lots of PDA. Hailey attends, Cameron Dallas also attends, they do not attend as a couple. they meet up later for Travis Scotts afterparty. Kendall, Bella and Kylie are in attendance here as well. Justin does not attend but is seen talking to Hailee Steinfeld at a NYC hotel after the Gala.
May 5: Justin seen with models in Dubai as he resumes his world tour
May 23: Justin seen out lit at a club, stumbles over words trying to preform Despacito hahha
May 26: Justin hangs out with his pastor again
June 4: Justin preforms and does a speech where he cries onstage at Ariana Grande’s Manchester benefit concert in honor of the victims of the 2017 Manchester bombing at Grandes show. Goes out afterwards. He begins his second leg of his Europe portion of the Purpose tour.
June 5 2017: Selena is asked about Justins emotional performance, says ‘I thought Justin did great. It was really beautiful,’
June 9: tons of media outlets run the story that Hailey and Cameron Dallas are dating
June 21: Cameron and Hailey post subtweets about each other, everyone concludes theyre fighting
June 23: Uhhhh Hailey and Scott Disick seen getting lunch together. Weird lol
June 30: Justin seen with arms around two girls in France — but hold up yall, its just his pastors wife and child. LOL.
July 1 2017: Reports that Justin keeps getting spotted all over a small NJ suburb. Its where his pastor lives so. Thats probably why
July 20: Bieber seen with pastors daughter again
July 23: Selena and Abel have still been rock steady, its her birthday and he takes a near 12 hour flight to be with her.
July 23–25: Justin cancels remainder of his Purpose tour, which was set to run until early October, due to depression and exhaustion.
July 26: Justin hits a pedestrian while leaving a Hillsong Church event at Saban Theater in Beverly Hills. Weirdly enough, the car he was driving was leased to Kourtney Kardashian LMAO. Daily Beast runs an article about Justins new church obsession
Aug 17: Justin and Kourtney attend church at same time, shes dating Younes at this point though
Aug 30: Justin seen at a club getting close with a random girl, also seen smiling a lot… also some kind of lawsuit about his testicles is simultaneously going on…yeah. dont ask me. I dont fucking know. Lmfao
Sept 11 2017: Selena and Abel move in together while she films in NYC
Sept 18: Justin brings model Fiona Barron to his hotel
Sept 20: Justin brings pastor bestie to studio with him
Sept 27: Justin seen with model Paula Paulin, he took her to church as a date, dating rumors start but are quickly shut down
October 2017: After a long, weird year for all involved — failed Fyre Festivals, the Pepsi ad, Selena & Abels relationship, and Biebers tour cancellation + new Church obsession…Jelena is BACK??
If you skipped ahead, heres a summary of the last 10 months:
Hailey and Vine star Cameron Dallas become a ‘thing’, they fight, she goes a on date with Scott Disick and another random DJ. Selena and Abel are head over heels in love for 10 months straight, January to October. She also gets a kidney transplant mid-year. Justin isnt really doing his usual constant fuckboy behavior this year, he cancels his tour in late July as his Hillsong Church obsession and friendship with the Pastor grows. Oh also, he hit a pedestrian in Kourtney Kardashians Range Rover. At a church event. LOL. Alright lets look at October.
October 13 2017: Selena & Abel go on a theme park date night
Oct 29: Justin and Selena get breakfast together
Oct 29: Justin and Selena get breakfast together again. Selena ends up spending day with Justin, going to church together and later Selena is spotted at Justins home that night. Something weird happened between church and them going to Justin’s house though. Notice that almost all the pics from this TMZ post that covers their outings on this particular day have been wiped from the internet.
Whats weird to me about this is that celebs never go themselves to get drugs, they always have people transporting it for them. I wonder what went wrong this day that they ended up alone, with no security, in such a sketch neighborhood. Almost no media addresses this video.
Oct 30: Selena and Abel break up.
Nov 1: Hailey and Shawn Mendes first seen together.
Nov 13: Fan spots Selena and Justin on a walk together
Also: Eh… not really relevant but I’ll throw this in here bc i love mess. Also on Nov 15, Abel is seen leaving Bella Hadids apartment
Nov 16: Hailey goes public as dating Shawn Mendes
Nov 21: Shawn denies that he is dating anyone
REDDIT FRIENDS, THIS IS WHERE MY POST LEFT OFF!
Nov 30: Selena does a Billboard interview. When asked about what brought Justin back info her life, she says “ I’m 25. I’m not 18, or 19, or 20. I cherish people who have really impacted my life. So maybe before, [we] could have been forcing something that wasn’t right. But that doesn’t mean caring for someone ever goes away.”
Dec 12 2017: Justins team telling media how committed he is to proving himself to Selena
December 17 2017: Selena walks out on a date with Justin because I guess he started dancing and embarassed herLOL
Dec 19: Selenas mother is hospitalized. Apparently, Selenas mom and Selena got into a heated argument about her reunion with Justin, where Selena revealed to her that they are going to couples therapy. This sent her mom spiraling because In October, she told TMZ,”Justin is a vile human and will never be accepted by us. As long as she is even speaking to him in any way, it is not only disrespectful to everyone around her, it is disrespectful to herself.” Her and her mom unfollow each other on IG.
Dec 20: Justin reaches out to Hailey to provide some kind of closure or something. Yes, shes still dating Shawn Mendes if you cared
Dec 21: Jelenas couples therapy story goes public — everyone thinks its due to the Hailey baldwin thing.
I personally think it was the pastor pushing Jelena to do pre-martial couples therapy, unrelated to Hailey. This would make more sense as to why Selena telling her mom about the therapy sent her spiraling. Im guessing “pre-martial” was the key word that sent her to the hospital that day. Heres a sketchy source that agrees with me, lol. Itll make more sense later though, just wait.
Dec 30-Jan 1: Jelena spend NYE in Mexico together
January 3 2018: Jelena leave a hot pilates class together
Jan 7: Justin seeking guidance from pastor on relationship
Jan 14 2018: Selenas mom speaks to media, says Selena can live her life how she wants and says that she hasnt spoken to Bieber in years.
Jan 19: Justins mom goes on instragram and defends justin
Jan 29: Sources go to major outlets saying the couple is doing great!
Jan 30: Shawn Mendes seen on a date with Camila Cabello
Feb 9 2018: Jelena goes to a concert together, theres video of them making out in a street after
: Jelena has a mini vacay and then a Valentines day date. They attend his dads wedding in Jamaica together. Seen kissing etc all over this trip. by the end of the month theyre basically inseparable.
Feb 19: Rumors spread that Justin is lowkey pressuring Selena into marriage, sources say Selena has been telling him she wants to take things slow
Also on March 1, Selena posts a Happy Birthday message on IG to Justin. This is now deleted
March 8 2018: Jelena seen leaving church seperately, rumors that theyre ‘on a break’ have been emerging the last 2 days
Whats Hailey been up to? Oh yeah. She decides to tell US Weekly, on March 8, that she is Definitely Single. I am sure that her going to the media on this exact day has nothing to do with anything else going on. Nope! Not related. At all
March 9: Justin posts shirtless pic and Hailey likes it, being the first online interaction theyve had in ages
March 13: Selena goes to Texas to be with her family
April 3 2018: Justin goes to major media outlets to say he wants selena back
April 4 2018: Shawn posts a pic with Hailey
il 5: Shawn does radio interview and talks about Camila, saying “Oh my god, she’s my favorite person in the whole world, I don’t think you’ll ever meet somebody who can feel emotion like her, in all aspects. She can feel hurt like no other, but she can feel love like no other, and it’s really amazing.”
April 7: Justin leaves spin class with a mystery brunette
April 11: Baskin photographed leaving Biebers home alone
April 12: Justin and Baskin go to spin class together
April 12: Justin and Selena attend church separately
April 13: Justin Theroux and Selena have been texting, LOL (??)
May 7 2018: Met Gala again!!!! Shawn Mendes and Hailey attend as a couple. Selena attends solo. Kylie and Selena reunite. Justin does not attend, he writes on instagram seemingly dissing the Met. Screenshot here.
May 8: Media unearths old 2013 tweet Hailey wrote about wanting to date Shawn
May 9: Selena says her and Justin are 100% done,for reals this time!
May 10: Shawn tells W magazine that him and Hailey are just friends.
May 17: Uhh Selena and Justin Theroux might be a thing now
June 8 2018: Justin and Hailey reunite! Seen at the W Hotel in South Beach Miami together. No pics but several articles cite the reunion as June 8. Rumors are that they traveled there together
June 12: Hailey and Justin leave Miami together
June 13: Sources from both Selena and Justins teams say they are NOT TALKING, NO CONTACT ETC
June 18: Jailey is seen alll over NYC parks making out and stuff
June 18: Selena goes on an Italy vacation with former costar David Henrie. Lot of rumors about her always having a ‘thing’ for him have gone around hollywood in the past so this feels romantic but David was married at this time so it likely wasn’t.
June 24: Fans spot them on a trip in Washington, in a hot tub and at a church service
June 27: Hailey deletes all pics with Shawn from IG
June 29: Sources confirm Hailey & Justin are dating
July 1 2018: Justin proposes to Hailey!! They keep it secret for uhhhh about a week. This article was posted on Sat, July 8 and 9:35AM PST. The article references it happening saturday night, a week before.
July 8–9: They go public with engagement.
July 8: Selenas team makes it VERY CLEAR THAT SHE DOES NOT CARE to every media source they can. LOL
Anddddd that about wraps it up for this timeline! This was a long one, I dont blame you if you skipped to October LOL but thanks for sticking with me guys!
Some have asked for a post marriage analysis as well as my own opinions on all involved. I will give you those now, starting with…
Jailey’s Post Marriage Issues
They officially married in Sept of 2018. 5 months later, they do a Vogue interview, their first interview as a couple. Some interesting takeaways:
- Theyre asked how it is adjusting to married life. Hailey answers first, saying: “The thing is, marriage is very hard. That is the sentence you should lead with. It’s really effing hard.” Bieber then adds, “It’s been difficult for me even to trust Hailey. We’ve been working through stuff.”
- Hailey also says: “Negative things happened that we still need to talk about and work through [from our past]. Fizzled out would not be the right word — it was more like a very dramatic excommunication. There was a period where if I walked into a room, he would walk out.”
- Justin admits that he was celibate when him and Hailey reunited and that sex was a factor in his decision to propose.
- Justin admits to having a Xanax addiction and a sex addiction in 2013–2014. Also admits the couple are in marriage counseling.
Also, a month after their official marriage, Selena enters rehab for a third time on October 10 2018. Justin does not take this news well, seen in several photos emotional and crying on October 11 2018. They also postponed their official wedding ceremony three times.
There are many(March 2019) occasions of Hailey and Justin fighting(Nov 2018) in public(August 2018). Lots of articles cite issues as well. Video of a diff argument here. Her own trademark was blocked by Justin in 2019.
Selena releases a song in Oct 2019 about a break up, the lyrics “in two months, you replaced us” are notable here. Minutes after the song released at midnight Hailey posted a screenshot on her story of a song called “I’ll kill you”, people say its shade to Selena. She denies this. March of 2021 theyre still having regular issues.
in 2019, Justin got caught with his search history open, shows him googling Selenas recent performance, specifically her “outfit on stage”. He goes public and says that Him and his WIFE were watching HIS coachella performance and it just autoplayed after. But what about the “outfit on stage” searches right before? hmmm. unsure. He actually gets insanely defensive about this,read his comments here.
Justin skateboards down the street, leaving Hailey behind to climb through a metal gate and she falls on the pavement
Video of Justin yelling at Hailey in front of paparazzi.
Justin tells Hailey not to touch him, she thinks its a joke, he confirms in the clip that it isnt
He slams door on her when getting out of the car
if you cant watch the above video heres a transcript…
Hailey: we were working alongside doctors leading up to the tour to make sure that you know, he’s doing everything necessary and safe for that …
Hailey: … you know it definitely sucks that the tour was.. [unclear]
-Justin cuts her off- Justin: you just answered my … she was asking me.
Justin: huh? [mimicking]
Justin: [laughing] they were asking me because it’s my lyme disease, it’s not your lyme disease. Is it your lyme disease?
Hailey: no.. but I was help — you know, in every freaking day in the doctor with you for months, so..
Justin: yeah, but they asked if I was scared about the lyme disease cauz I’m the one that has it.
Hailey: alright.. but I didn’t say that. I was just saying that you were taking all the necessities.
Justin: listen to me woman.
….Sooooo thats that. Lol.
Justin on IG Live telling her if she “wasnt so hot, I would have left a long time ago”
Justin screammmiingggg at Hailey at an arcade
Honestly.. there is probably more im forgetting here. But I think that covers enough for you to kind of get the picture?
MY FINAL THOUGHTS.
Justin and Selena were absolutely in love, but were super toxic for each other. Hailey has loved Justin since she was just a huge bieber fan back in 2009. She loves him more than he loves her and I think its pretty obvious to them & the world that that’s the case. Justin has a lot of guilt about his past and the things hes done, he takes pent up anger and regressions out on Hailey mainly because…she lets him.
He wont leave her anytime soon because shes just such a safe reliable choice. Good ole Hailey, always there, always around. She wont leave him because this is her childhood dream. Mrs. Bieber! She did it!!!! And the sunken cost fallacy plays a part as well, Im sure. Shes spent too much of her life committed to this guy to leave now. At least thats what she tells herself. I almost feel bad for her but then I remember how much she literally allowed to happen and turn the other way for.
Selena is a troubled girl who definitely still struggles with her own demons. She isnt an angel either, she has definitely encouraged bad behavior, from fans bullying Justins new girls to the constant arguing between him and her when they were together. Also, she got her friend to donate a kidney due to what sources say was her alleged/suspected alcoholism and months later she’s seen allegedly buying drugs in a sketch town w bieber…..Yikes
Justin is someone who was thrust into fame too fast and blew up almost overnight. That kind of attention and fandom at an age where youre just going through puberty is a hard thing to come out from unscathed. He definitely fell into a lot of the typical child star traps like drugs, sex
, alcoholism, and acting out/misbehaving in public. He regularly usedwomen to distract him from his problems and to avoid confronting his own emotions and issues. I dont think Hailey is as important to him as his IG posts make it out to be. She let him get away with so much toxic, awful behavior. I think it’s hard for Justin, even now, to fully respect Hailey simply because she allowed him to disrespect her like that for years. I honestly think part of him still loves Selena and always will. I dont think they should get back together though.
Kendall and Kylie only think of themselves at the end of the day. Most things they do are ultimately to benefit themselves. Kendall encouraged Hailey going back to a bad person multiple times because of her spite for Selena. Kylie faked a friendship with Selena while sending dirty pics and texts to Selenas on/off boyfriend. Kourtney? LMAOO yo. I have no idea why Kourtney was so involved in all of this. I think Justin was just a good reliable person to do publicity stuff with and make Scott jealous. They probably hooked up once or twice too.
Andddddd I am exhausted so I’m going to wrap this up now! Thank you all so much for all the encouragement and kind words!!! Hopefully I get some time off again soon and I can do a few more deep dives.
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